The Queen breaks her silence on Harry and Meghan after Oprah interview

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The Queen has broken her silence on Harry and Meghan’s bombshell interview to say that ‘while some recollections may vary’ the ‘whole family is saddened’ to hear of the couple’s ‘challenging few years’.

Her Majesty said in a statement an alleged racist comment made about what colour the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s baby Archie would be was ‘concerning’ and will be ‘addressed by the family privately’.

She added that Harry and Meghan – using their names rather than titles – and their son ‘will always be much loved family members’.

The statement said: ‘The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.

‘The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members.’

It is understood the Queen waited until Tuesday to comment on the devastating interview with Oprah Winfrey so Britons had the chance to watch it first – but ‘the Firm’ is not expected to make any further comments.

Royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams said her response assures Harry and Meghan and the public that the concerns raised in the interview will be addressed.

He told MailOnline: ‘It would always have been inappropriate to do a point by point rebuttal of claims which they made with which the Palace disagree. Since the interview reportedly runs to 3 hours, 20 minutes, it was very likely further extracts would be released which would obviously cause complications.

‘The Queen, part of whose life’s work has been to nurture the Commonwealth, a symbol of diversity, has rightly expressed concern about the issue of race being raised.

‘As has been widely reported, the views expressed on several issues by the Sussexes were highly questionable. The Queen’s use of the phrase ”while some recollections may vary” handles this with sensitivity.

‘We know from her Christmas messages how important the family is to the Queen. All families have their differences and difficulties and the strength of Harry and Meghan’s feeling that they had been badly treated was obvious.

‘The reference to Harry, Meghan and Archie as ”loved family members” is therefore highly appropriate.

‘They are assured that their concerns are taken very seriously and that the way to handle the issues they have raised is to do so privately, as a family.

‘This is a short statement which, in the Queen’s inimitable way, has a healing touch. Let us hope that, after yesterday’s shock interview, it begins a process where the royal family and the Sussexes, who are part of it, can realise their undoubtedly unique potential together and solve their differences away from the public gaze.’

It comes after senior royals broke cover today amid claims the palace was paralysed with fear that Harry and Meghan could reveal the figure accused of commenting on Archie’s skin colour.

Prince Charles and his wife Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, were out and about visiting several vaccination centres as part of their official duties, while the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were seen driving around London on personal errands.

A senior palace source earlier today claimed the delayed statement from the Queen was partly down to a lack of ‘trust’ between the Windsors and the Sussexes, with fears a denial without fully investigating the claims could lead to Harry and Meghan naming the person they accuse of making the comment.

The Duchess of Sussex’s allegation a senior royal asked Harry how ‘dark’ Archie’s skin would be and the claim the one-year-old was denied the title of prince because he is mixed-race – rather than because of protocol – are the most damaging to the royals.

‘A denial could lead the Sussexes breaking their vow and naming the member of the royal family who discussed their son’s skin colour. There is a lack of trust,’ an insider told the Evening Standard.

The source added: ‘It could lead to the Sussexes naming names and it blowing up again.’

Prince Charles smiled but stayed silent as he was quizzed about the interview on the first official engagement by a royal since it aired – as he told a nurse ‘I can imagine how exhausting it is’ as she described her work handing out vaccines.

The Prince of Wales – who is said to be ‘absolutely devastated’ at Harry’s claims he cut him off, put on a brave face as he spoke to medics, clerics and patients at Jesus House church near Brent Cross in London, following the deluge of personal attacks in front of a TV audience of 28million in the UK and US alone.

He was alone for that visit, although Camilla joined him later for trips to a vaccination centre in Elephant and Castle, south London, and the headquarters of NHS England.

One parishioner at Jesus House, who only gave her first name, Grace, highlighted that Charles had visited a ‘black church’, adding: ‘All that effort and someone turns around and says there’s racism, I don’t believe that’.

Harry – through back-stage comments to Oprah – has ruled out the Queen and Prince Philip as having made the comments about Archie but left other royals under suspicion.

Charles is said to be ‘deeply’ concerned over the racism claims, with a source saying: ‘It goes against everything the Prince of Wales believes in. He believes diversity is the strength of our society.’

This morning’s visit is understood to have been in the palace diary for some time, although the royals may have had a suspicion about what could be discussed in the Oprah interview in advance of it airing.

Charles seemed at ease as he chatted with people waiting for their vaccinations, including one woman who said she was from Nigeria.

The prince – who previously visited the church in 2007 – replied: ‘Oh fantastic, yes, I’ve been there. Lots of different ethnic groups. Do give them my kind regards next time you speak to them.’

As Charles left the church, a reporter asked, ‘Sir, what did you think of the interview?’, and after turning to see who had called out, he smiled and carried on walking.

In the Oprah interview, Charles was personally referenced by Prince Harry, who said he felt ‘really let down’ by his father after he allegedly refused to answer his calls during his time in Canada.

Harry also claimed his family had cut him off financially and suggested the Queen had been badly advised and had cancelled a meeting scheduled at Sandringham.

Discussing his father, Harry said: ‘I feel really let down because he’s been through something similar. He knows what pain feels like. I will always love him, but there’s a lot of hurt that’s happened. And I will continue to make it one of my priorities to try and heal that relationship.’

Royal insiders have rubbished the claims and said Charles feels ‘let down’ by his son’s comments.

‘The Prince of Wales went out of his way to make sure his son and daughter in law were financially supported,’ a senior source told the Standard.

Harry’s remarks raised eyebrows as the couple had themselves made clear their express wish to be ‘financially independent’ when announcing their decision to quit in January 2020.

Meanwhile, another source close to the heir to the throne told the Telegraph Charles will be left ‘absolutely devastated’ by what his youngest son had said about him.

As senior officials tried to work out how to respond:

• Piers Morgan sensationally quit Good Morning Britain hours after the launch of a social media campaign which saw more than 40,000 complaints made to Ofcom;
• Meghan says everyone should have ‘basic right to privacy’ in the latest unseen Oprah clip amid ‘hypocrisy’ claims;
• Hillary Clinton says the ‘cruelty’ the British press showed to Meghan was ‘outrageous’ and slams the Royals for ‘not supporting’ a ‘young woman who was just trying to live her life’;
• The Prime Minister’s official spokesman says Boris Johnson watched the interview but would not be commenting on it, despite White House giving its verdict;
• YouGov survey found Britons are standing by the Queen, with 36% having sympathy for Her Majesty compared to 22% for couple;
• Labour’s Diane Abbott slams Royal Family ‘racism’ and says Palace aides did not ‘adjust well’ to Harry marrying a ‘mixed race woman’;
• Figures show more than a million viewers turned off Harry and Meghan interview on ITV, with an average audience of 11.1m;
• Meghan’s father Thomas Markle takes swipe at ‘snotty’ Prince Harry for ‘dressing up like Hitler’;
• Nearly half of Britons believe Harry and Meghan’s interview with Oprah was ‘inappropriate’, snap poll fines;
• Meghan’s half-sister Samantha slams her Oprah interview, accusing Duchess of using ‘depression as an excuse to treat people like dishrags’.

The Prince of Wales was praised for visiting the NHS pop-up vaccine clinic in spite of ongoing ‘family drama’. One woman, who only gave her name as Grace, claimed she briefly spoke to the heir to the throne.

‘He was quite interactive with the people in there in spite of all the drama going on,’ the 50-year-old said. ‘He took the time to come out here. I’m very happy he came out to encourage us to take the vaccine as well.’

She hailed the work of the church to help people ‘not to be afraid of the vaccine’ and for ‘creating a platform’ that had given ‘a lot more reassurance to black people and ethnic minorities’. 

Grace said it would have been ‘rude’ for anyone to mention the Oprah Winfrey interview and repeated: ‘In spite of the family drama he still took time out to come here.’

In an apparent reference to Harry and Meghan’s claim an unnamed member of the royal family made a racist comment, Grace highlighted Charles had visited a ‘black church’, adding: ‘All that effort and someone turns around and says there’s racism, I don’t believe that’.

She added: ‘Every family has issues, I don’t think it’s right for anyone to wash their dirty linen in public.’

Another patient said ‘private matters didn’t come up at all’ during the visit by the Prince of Wales.

Maziya Marzook, 42, from Harrow, said: ‘He didn’t bring up anything, he was more interested in how the vaccine was and how we feel.’

She said Charles was ‘doing his job’ and that he seemed ‘quite a nice person’ and appeared ‘humble’.

Ms Marzook, a housewife, added: ‘It’s good that he comes like this, the encouragement he’s giving.’

Royal aides were paralysed with ‘horror and dismay’ when watching the stream of damaging allegations yesterday as the Duke of Sussex stood accused of ‘blowing up his family’.

Earlier today, the Queen, Prince Charles and Prince William were all locked in crisis talks over how to react to the string of incendiary accusations unleashed by Harry and Meghan during a two-hour special with Oprah Winfrey on American TV.

Palace insiders described a mood of ‘intense personal shock and sadness’ that the prince had pressed the ‘nuclear button on his own family’. ‘People are just reeling,’ a source said.

The couple’s interview on CBS late on Sunday night sent shock waves around the world yesterday as the couple laid bare the extent of their rift with the Queen and other senior royals.

They accused an unnamed Royal Family member of racism, suggesting the relative had asked ‘how dark’ their baby would be; said they had been driven out of Britain, in part, by racism; and accused the Palace machinery of failing to support a ‘suicidal’ Meghan.

Meghan also accused her sister-in-law Kate of making her cry; suggested senior royals plotted to ensure Archie would never have a title or adequate security; and said officials had failed to stand up for the couple against ‘racist’ commentary, while lying to protect other royals.

A senior Government minister and Boris Johnson ally, Lord [Zac] Goldsmith, echoed the mood of many in royal circles yesterday. Responding to the suggestion that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex had ‘loaded up a plane and dropped bomb after heavy bomb on Buckingham Palace’, he tweeted: ‘Not ‘Buckingham Palace’ – Harry’s family. Harry is blowing up his family.’

A statement was understood to have been prepared by Buckingham Palace last night highlighting the Royal Family’s love for the couple, in an attempt to avoid tensions mounting even further. However the Queen was keen not to rush it out without careful consideration overnight, according to The Times.

Buckingham Palace, which was not informed about the couple’s decision to do the interview before it was first announced last month, had been bracing itself for the worst. 

But aides could not have predicted how devastatingly brutal the couple’s interview – watched by 17million in the US alone but set to air last night to a global audience of many times more, including on ITV in the UK – would be.

The Mail has been told that royal staff stayed up until 3am to watch the interview via video link live from the US with a mounting sense of horror – and sadness.

The Queen’s private secretary Sir Edward Young and Charles’s private secretary Clive Alderton are both said to have watched the interview from Buckingham Palace.

Palace IT staff had set up a computer link so they could see it, while other members of staff watched it on their laptops while working from home, reported the Daily Telegraph.

Aides then had to prepare briefings from members of the Royal Family and agreed any response would have to be co-ordinated between the Queen, Charles and William.

As morning broke, crisis meetings were called involving senior officials as well as senior royals, in person and on the phone, as well via video call.

The Queen, at Windsor, spoke with her son Charles, who was at Clarence House, his London home, and grandson William, who has also moved back to the capital from Norfolk in preparation for his children to return to school.

Sources told the Mail household staff, many of whom had supported the couple as best they could during an ‘extremely difficult and trying three years’, felt ‘angry and let down’ but were determined to put a brave face on the situation for the sake of the elderly monarch.

‘Staff are reeling. But there is [also] a strong sense of needing to retain a dignified silence and show kindness and compassion. There’s a lot people want to say but no one wins with a tit-for-tat battle,’ said one. ‘Bridges need to be built after all this is over, after all.’

Most damaging are the couple’s claims that not only were they unsupported by both family members and staff, but they also suffered as a result of an apparent racist agenda against them.

Meghan suggested that race was the heart of every decision made against them.

But there was bemusement among royal insiders at her claims that senior royals had tried to prevent their son, Archie, from having a title – or security – because of blatant prejudice.

‘They didn’t want him to be a prince,’ she told Miss Winfrey.

Long-standing rules, laid down by George V, mean that the title of HRH passes only to the children of a sovereign and their grandchildren through the male line, meaning Archie will only be given a title when his grandfather, Prince Charles, accedes to the throne.

The Queen can issue letters patent to change that on an individual basis but aides for Harry and Meghan briefed journalists at the time of his birth that they were very happy for him to be styled ‘Master Archie’ because they wanted him to have the same kind of freedoms as the prince’s cousins, Zara and Peter Phillips. 

A source close to the Sussexes suggested yesterday the couple were so concerned about Archie’s security because of his mixed race heritage that they wanted him to become a prince so he would be afforded suitable security.

But insiders say there was never any doubt that the Queen’s great-grandson would be protected and although the Prince of Wales has made no secret of his desire to have a slimmed-down monarch, Harry and his family were always part of his plan.

There was no comment, however, on Meghan’s astonishing accusation that Kate had reduced her to tears ahead of the 2018 royal wedding over a bridesmaid dress fitting with her daughter, Princess Charlotte.

She even claimed her future sister-in-law ‘owned’ her mistake, apologised and bought her flowers, contrary to claims that it was she who had made Kate cry with her unrealistic demands.

‘She did what I would do if I hurt someone. Just take accountability for it,’ Meghan said.

The Duchess of Cambridge was yesterday seen driving, stony faced, near Kensington Palace as her office released a video of conducting a call to mark International Women’s Day by speaking to the youngest woman to row solo across an ocean.

The picture of strain was a stark contrast to a new image of Harry and Meghan, pregnant and cuddling Archie, in the garden of their home in California released by her friend, Misan Hariman, to also mark IWD.

The black and white portrait emerged on social media just hours after their interview – in which the couple revealed the second baby they were expecting was a girl – had aired.

A message read: ‘Welcome to the girldad club H!’

The Prime Minister refused yesterday to comment on the details of the Sussexes’ allegations – even when asked whether he believed members of the Royal Family might be racist. 

But the White House backed the couple’s decision to speak out, a spokesman saying it took ‘courage’ for Meghan to open up about struggles with mental health problems.

And Labour called on the Palace to launch an investigation into the couple’s claims of racism.

Party leader Sir Keir Starmer said it was ‘really sad to see the family in turmoil like this’ and that the allegations made by the duchess must be taken seriously.

He added: ‘The issues that Meghan has raised of racism and mental health are really serious issues.

‘It is a reminder that too many people experience racism in 21st century Britain. We have to take that very, very seriously.

‘Nobody, but nobody, should be prejudiced (against) because of the colour of their skin or because of their mental health issues.’

Leader of the House of Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg told Conservative Home today that he had not seen the interview.

But he said: ‘I don’t think it does any damage to the Royal Family or to the monarchy.

‘One of the constitutional issues, well I don’t think there are many, the only real constitutional issue is the question of title because people have been talking about the Duke and Duchess of Sussexes’ title, which to my mine is absolute, it is there and would require legislation to take it away.

‘And their son has a title, he is Lord Dumbarton, he is entitled to use his father’s subsidiary title if he so chooses, and his sister as I understand is coming along the way, will be lady, christian name, Mountbatten-Windsor, and that’s perfectly normal constitutional process in line with what has always been the case before.’

He added: ‘Nothing constitutional has happened and I think most sensible people in this country want the monarchy to continue.’

Former minister Steve Brine told Times Radio: ‘They, for well known reasons, decided they wanted to take off to the other side of the pond and I think people wish them well with that.

‘They said they wanted to get away from the limelight. They wanted to get off the front pages, they wanted to have, quote, ”something of a normal life”. I have never known two people to seek a normal life so desperate to have the very opposite.’

He added: ‘I think they have been used by her and I think when they are older they’ll look back on this week and I think they’ll regret doing it.’

Labour education spokesman Kate Green went further, saying the duchess’s claims should be ‘fully investigated’ by the Palace.

But Tory MP Michael Fabricant accused Labour of trying to ‘politicise’ the row. He told the Mail: ‘Labour are wrong to politicise this. They know full well that there will be inquiries going on.

‘They really do trying to be desperately insert themselves into the story to get attention.’ Mr Fabricant said: ‘Every family is dysfunctional one way or another. 

The MP added: ‘The holder of every high position will have personal little secrets they want hidden. We are all human.’ 

‘I never played naked pool or dressed up like Hitler’: Meghan’s father Thomas Markle takes swipe at ‘snotty’ Harry, says his daughter ‘let him down but he still loves’ her – and insists the British public are NOT racist

By Martin Robinson and Henry Martin for MailOnline

Meghan Markle’s estranged father Thomas today denied his daughter’s claims to Oprah that he had ‘betrayed’ her before branding his son-in-law ‘snotty’ and declaring: ‘We all make mistakes – but I’ve never played naked pool or dressed like Hitler like Harry did’.

Mr Markle says that he’s apologised ‘100 times’ for doing a deal with a paparazzi photographer before the Royal Wedding in 2018 and urged the couple to see him with Archie now they only live ’70 miles away’ from his Mexico home in Los Angeles.

And in an attack on his daughter’s decision to refuse to see him, Mr Markle said: ‘The biggest problem here is she’s pretty much ghosted all of her family’.

The 76-year-old also denied the Royal Family – or Britain – is racist, saying if it is true an unnamed royal asked about how ‘dark’ Archie’s skin would be, it was probably just a ‘dumb question’, before calling Meghan and Harry’s claims ‘bulls**t’.

Mr Markle, who has watched the entire two-hour CBS interview, said he was ‘upset’ when he saw his youngest daughter tell Oprah that royal life was so stressful she was suicidal and ‘couldn’t be left alone’ – but then said Meghan’s husband Harry had ‘obviously not supported her that well’.

Mr Markle spoke to Good Morning Britain in the UK after watching the Oprah interview with his daughter and her husband, which was watched by 11.4million in Britain last night and tens of millions more when it was shown by CBS in the US on Sunday.

In it Meghan said she could not fathom hurting her son Archie in the way her own father ‘betrayed’ her, admitting she ‘found it hard to reconcile’ with Thomas. She said: ‘I look at Archie, I think about this child, and I genuinely can’t imagine doing anything to intentionally cause pain to my child’. 

Mr Markle said that while he did let her down, she had ‘let me down too’ by cutting him off after heart surgery almost three years ago. He said: ‘The bottom line is she didn’t lose me, she made a statement saying she lost me, she didn’t lose me, I would’ve always been there for her, I’m there for her now if she wants me’.  He added: ‘We all make mistakes – but I’ve never played naked pool or dressed like Hitler like Harry did’. 

Mr Markle was referencing Harry’s decision to wear a Nazi uniform to a party when he was 20 and seven years later in 2012 the prince was photographed wearing nothing but a necklace with a naked female playmate hiding behind him having just played a game of strip pool in his VIP Las Vegas hotel suite.

Describing his last phone call with Harry after heart surgery in May 2018, Mr Markle said: ‘Harry had said to me if you had listened to me, this wouldn’t have happened to you. Me, laying in a hospital bed after a having procedure, I had a stent put here and put here [points at his heart] and that was kind of snotty so I hung up on him.’

And in a further attack on Harry, Mr Markle said that his daughter’s admission she was suicidal while living in the UK reflected badly on his son-on-law. 

He said: ‘It really did upset me, like I said, it would have been easy for her to reach out to me, any of the rest of her family, who she claims she doesn’t know. But the other thing is that I would think that she could turn to her husband.’ When noted she did, he said: ‘Obviously not supported her that well.’

But Mr Markle also used the rare interview to urge his daughter to reach out to him. He said: ‘I’d like to say again. I’m sorry for what I’ve done. This was two years ago. But I’ve tried to make it up to her. I’m now only 70 miles away. I’ve never stopped loving her. I don’t agree with all the things that my children they do. But I will always love them. And I certainly love Meghan’.

 ‘You’ve never liked her’: Piers Morgan storms off GMB during furious row with weatherman Alex Beresford who was speaking up for Meghan Markle 

Alex Beresford added fuel to his row with Piers Morgan today as he took aim at those who ‘had the privilege to sit on the fence’ and said no one should ‘pick apart claims of racism.’

Morgan stormed off the Good Morning Britain set live on air this morning after the show’s weatherman accused him of unfairly ‘trashing’ Meghan Markle.

Morgan and Beresford had been discussing the Sussexes’ bombshell interview with Oprah, where the couple accused the Royal Family of racism.

After publicly disagreeing on Twitter in the days leading up to the interview, the pair continued to clash in the studio this morning, with Beresford branding his colleague ‘diabolical’.

Tensions were evidently rising as Beresford tried to interject while Morgan was discussing the media’s role in promoting the monarchy.

Morgan said, ‘Well do you mind waiting?’ and Beresford replied ‘Actually I don’t, carry on’ before Morgan let him speak, saying, ‘Up to you mate, I was just going to… fine.’

Beresford then joined the debate around the couple’s press coverage, adding: ‘There was bad press around the engagement, before the engagement and everything that has followed since has been incredibly damaging, quite clearly to Meghan’s mental health and also to Harry.’

The weatherman, 40, then suggested Morgan, who has previously recalled going to the pub with Meghan ahead of her date with Prince Harry, was upset at being ‘cut off’ by the duchess.

He added: ‘She’s entitled to cut you off. Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don’t think she has. But you continue to trash her’ – at which point Morgan marched off set.

Susanna Reid was forced to send ITV’s breakfast programme to an early advertisement break after the row between her co-host and Beresford boiled over.

The GMB host returned to the set after the ad break, and said he and Beresford needed to engage ‘in a civilised manner given that we work at the same show on the same team’.

He added: ‘You launching into a pretty personally derogatory monologue on one of your colleagues probably isn’t one of the best ways to go about it.’

Morgan also went on to address criticism he received yesterday after seemingly casting doubt on Meghan’s claims to have felt suicidal. While doubling down on his ‘serious concerns about the veracity’ of her interview, he stressed mental health ‘should be taken extremely seriously’.

After the show ended Beresford tweeted what appeared a thinly-veiled dig: ‘I wish I had the privilege to sit on the fence.

‘In order for me to do that I would have to strip myself of my identity and that’s not something I can do. It’s not any of our places to pick apart claims of racism in order to make us to feel more comfortable.’

The fallout of Meghan and Harry’s sit-down with Oprah, that aired to British viewers on ITV last night, continues to dominate the news agenda this morning.

GMB aired a clip of the duke taking aim at the press, which kicked off a debate on the show.

Morgan argued the press performs a dual role of scrutinising the royals but also promoting their activities.

Beresford countered that most of the coverage of the Sussexes had been negative, before turning to address Morgan directly.

‘I understand that you don’t like Meghan Markle, you’ve made it so clear a number of times on this programme, a number of times,’ he said.

‘I understand you have a personal relationship with Meghan Markle, or had one, and she cut you off. She’s entitled to cut you off.

‘Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don’t think she has. But yet you continue to trash her’.

At this point Morgan, 55, stood up and said: ‘Ok, I’m done with this. Sorry. You can trash me mate but not on my own show. See you later’.

As the GMB host marched off, Beresford persisted: ‘You know what that’s diabolical behaviour. That’s pathetic.

His colleagues watched in stunned silence as he continued, calling Morgan’s comments in yesterday’s show ‘incredibly hard to watch’.

‘I’m sorry but Piers just spouts off on a regular basis and we have to sit there and listen,’ he said.

Reid eventually interjected and took the show to an early ad break while tensions cooled.

On Twitter Morgan fended off suggestions he was a ‘snowflake’ – something he rails against regularly on GMB.

Guido Fawkes, the political blog, tweeted: ‘What a snowflake @piersmorgan turns out to be. If you dish it out, you’ve got to take it.’

Morgan replied: ‘Agreed. I was annoyed, went for a little cool-down, and came back to finish the discussion.’

He added that it was a ‘strong debate’ and so ‘worth a bit of GMB family tension’, but justifying his exit, said: ‘I just prefer not to sit there listening to colleagues call me diabolical.’

After the break, Morgan returned and said: ‘What we need to do Alex is talk to each other in a civilised manner given we work on the same show on the same team.

‘You launching into a pretty personally derogatory monologue on one of your colleagues probably isn’t one of the best ways to go about it.

‘As much as I’d like to sit here taking abuse from you, that’s not going to happen.’

Beresford shot back: ‘I’m not trying to come on this show and take you down. Just because we’re on the same side we have to have the same view.

‘This whole situation is very personal for me and I’m by no way, shape or form accusing you of being racist. I have the luxury of knowing you on and off screen and we’ve had conversations, I know where you stand on this and I have a great amount of respect for you, Piers.’

Morgan replied: ‘I wanted you on the show today because you sent me a really thoughtful and nuanced message about all this and I thought we could have a thoughtful nuanced conversation’.

Beresford then admitted: ‘I’m tired of finding a different way to explain not to you, but to so many people on why what has been said is so wrong.

He went on: ‘I’ve walked into institutions as the only person of colour and experienced covert and overt racism on so many occasions and why the Meghan interview really resonates with me is because an ex-work colleague – not on this show – asked me if I was worried about the shade of cocoa that my son was going to come out.

‘So I fully understand the hurt that is behind all of that.’

Morgan insisted he has not got a ‘racist bone’ in his body, saying he would ‘love’ if one of his children brought home someone from a different race.

Beresford said: ‘I don’t feel that you are a racist… but that’s why I just feel the stance you were taking on it yesterday was so strong I just felt it was slightly clouded because you’ve had an experience with her.’

The pair had rowed earlier in the week about the Oprah interview. Beresford tweeted: ‘You ever stop and think maybe you should give this woman carrying a baby a break?’

Morgan then replied: ‘You mean like she’s giving a 94yr-old woman a break as her husband lies in hospital?’ – a reference to the Queen and her husband Prince Philip.

The pair have locked horns before on air, including a similar debate about the Sussexes in January last year.   

Just who ARE Harry and Meghan accusing of race slur? It’s not the Queen or Prince Philip… so who in the Royal Family is said by the couple to have queried the colour of their son’s skin?

By Rebecca English for the Daily Mail 

Meghan and Harry sparked an extraordinary guessing game yesterday after accusing an unnamed member of the Royal Family of racism.

In one of the most shocking sections of the Oprah Winfrey interview, the duchess claimed that Harry was asked by a close relative ‘how dark’ their unborn baby would be. 

She added that the unnamed Royal had raised ‘concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born’.

The couple refused to identify the person concerned as it would be ‘too damaging to them’.

Speaking yesterday after the interview had aired in the US, Miss Winfrey revealed that Harry had asked her to make clear it wasn’t the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh – leaving only a handful of people it could be, including the Prince of Wales and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, as well as the Duchess of Cornwall.

Palace insiders reacted with horror at the accusation last night, saying it was deeply unfair to throw around such a damaging accusation, potentially libelling a number of senior royals who are unable to defend themselves.

It was also pointed out that there was no context to the alleged comment, which might shed more light on why it was said.

And there appeared to be a contradiction about when it was said, with Meghan saying it was while she was pregnant, while Harry said it had happened before their wedding.

The bombshell claim came as the duchess was asked about why she believed the Royal Family were trying to stop her unborn son being made a prince and prevent him from receiving official security.

Miss Winfrey remarked that Meghan and Harry must have had their own ‘suspicions’, asking flatly: ‘Do you think it’s because of his race?’

Meghan said she would answer ‘honestly’, before going on to claim there were ‘concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born’.

Reacting with exaggerated horror, Miss Winfrey asked who said that. Meghan sighed and said there were ‘several’ conversations about it with Harry.

‘About how dark your baby is going to be?’ asked Miss Winfrey.

Meghan replied: ‘Potentially, and what that would mean or look like.’ When pushed to reveal that person’s identity, Meghan refused. 

Significantly, she revealed that the question was asked during conversations ‘family had with him’.

When Harry joined the conversation, Miss Winfrey quickly took up the issue with him, saying Meghan had revealed there was a ‘conversation about Archie’s skin tone’. 

He nodded, clearly uncomfortable, admitted that it was ‘awkward’ and he was ‘a bit shocked’, but said he did not want to discuss it further.

Miss Winfrey said yesterday she had been ‘shocked’ at the alleged comment regarding Archie’s skin tone, but although she had tried to ask Harry for more information, both on and off-camera, he had refused to divest more.

However, he told her he wanted it made clear that the person concerned was ‘not his grandmother nor his grandfather’.

There was no comment from Buckingham Palace, but Charles’s biographer, Jonathan Dimbleby, told BBC Radio 4 he could not believe it would have been the heir to the throne.

‘He is someone whose professional personal life has been dedicated to bringing people together, not pulling them apart,’ he said. As predicted, race was a defining feature of the interview, threading through much of the interview.

Harry claimed that a ‘large part’ of the reason he and his family quit the UK was down to racism.

In an extra interview clip, posted on Twitter by US broadcaster CBS yesterday, the couple were asked by Miss Winfrey: ‘Did you leave the country because of racism?’

After a pause, Harry admitted it was a ‘large part’ of their reasoning, before launching an attack on the ‘bigoted’ press in the UK.

The duke said it would have made a ‘huge difference’ if the Royal Family had acknowledged the couple’s concerns.

‘There’s a lot of people that have seen it for what it was,’ he said. 

A lot of people. Like, it’s talked about across the world.

‘Yet, the very people that don’t want to see it or can’t see it choose not to see it.’

He said he has tried to ‘help them’ see what was happening to his wife and warned them that it was ‘not going to end well’.

Harry failed to reference his own indiscretions, including dressing up in a Nazi uniform and being filmed as a Sandhurst cadet using offensive and racist language to describe a colleague.

Instead, he obliquely referred to ‘doing my own learning’, blaming ‘the system of which I was brought up in’ for his ignorance.

He added: ‘One of the most telling parts and the saddest parts, I guess, was over 70 Members of Parliament… came out and called out the colonial undertones of articles and headlines written about Meghan.

‘Yet no one from my family ever said anything over those three years. That hurts.’

The duchess claimed the situation was made worse because royal press teams failed to come to their defence and correct inaccurate reports – as they had done for other family members.

Prince Philip, 99, wakes on 22nd day in hospital to the ‘worst Royal crisis since 1936 abdication’ after explosive Oprah interview aired on ITV – as Queen faces mounting pressure to respond to Harry and Meghan’s ‘nuclear’ claims 

Prince Philip is spending his 22nd day in hospital today as his grandson Harry and his wife Meghan’s interview with Oprah continues to cause turmoil for his family.

The Duke of Edinburgh, 99, remains at the private King Edward VII’s Hospital in London, where he was moved back to on Friday following a successful procedure on a pre-existing heart condition at St Bartholomew’s Hospital in the City of London on Wednesday. 

Anti-monarchy group Republic said the monarchy is now facing ‘its worst crisis since the abdication in 1936’ after the Sussexes ‘went nuclear’ in a show watched by tens of millions of people around the globe.

The Duke of Sussex accused the Queen of snubbing him after she was allegedly overruled by royal aides when she tried to invite him and Meghan on a trip to Sandringham after the couple announced they were stepping down.

Meanwhile, Prince Philip was cleared of making a racist remark about how ‘dark’ Archie’s skin would be, with Oprah saying Harry had confirmed the comment was not made by the Duke of Edinburgh or the Queen.

In the Oprah interview Meghan said she phoned the Queen to ‘check in’ when Prince Philip was taken to hospital, three weeks ago.

But Buckingham Palace has been paralysed with ‘horror and dismay’ as Prince Harry stands accused of ‘blowing up his family’ with his bombshell interview – with the Queen said to have refused to sign off on a statement.

The Queen, Prince Charles and Prince William were all locked in crisis talks over how to react to a string of incendiary accusations unleashed by Harry and wife Meghan during a two-hour special with Oprah Winfrey on American TV.

With pressure growing for a statement today, Palace insiders described a mood of ‘intense personal shock and sadness’ that the prince had pressed the ‘nuclear button on his own family’. ‘People are just reeling,’ a source said.

The couple’s interview on CBS late on Sunday night sent shock waves around the world yesterday as the couple laid bare the extent of their rift with the Queen and other senior royals.

They accused an unnamed Royal Family member of racism, suggesting the relative had asked ‘how dark’ their baby would be; said they had been driven out of Britain, in part, by racism; and accused the Palace machinery of failing to support a ‘suicidal’ Meghan.

Harry revealed an astonishing rift with his father, saying his family had cut him off financially while suggesting the Queen had been badly advised and had cancelled a meeting scheduled at Sandringham.

Meghan also accused her sister-in-law Kate of making her cry; suggested senior royals plotted to ensure Archie would never have a title or adequate security; and said officials had failed to stand up for the couple against ‘racist’ commentary, while lying to protect other royals.

A senior Government minister and Boris Johnson ally, Lord [Zac] Goldsmith, echoed the mood of many in royal circles yesterday. Responding to the suggestion that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex had ‘loaded up a plane and dropped bomb after heavy bomb on Buckingham Palace’, he tweeted: ‘Not ‘Buckingham Palace’ – Harry’s family. Harry is blowing up his family.’

A statement is understood to have been prepared by Buckingham Palace highlighting the Royal Family’s love for the couple, in attempt to avoid tensions mounting even further. However the Queen was keen not to rush it out without careful consideration overnight, according to The Times. 

A bonfire of piping hot pique served up by Queen of the sofa: JAN MOIR gives her verdict on the interview the whole world is talking about

By Jan Moir for the Daily Mail 

Whoever thought that royalty would one day deign to sit down with Meghan and Harry? Still, miracles do happen.

On a blameless spring day in California, the queen of the secular confessional dug out the orb of self-absorb along with the interceptor sceptre and sallied forth from her multimillion-dollar Montecito mansion to a friend’s multimillion-dollar Montecito mansion to interview Harry and Meghan, who arrived fresh from their multimillion-dollar Montecito mansion round the corner.

As Queen Oprah settled her guests among the lavender pots and lush greenery of this unnamed private estate, the pillared splendour told its own tale of the kind of sequestered luxury the Sussexes now call home. 

Yet in this sun-dappled paradise, all they wanted to talk about was paradise lost.

‘I’ve lost my father. I lost a baby. I nearly lost my name. I mean, there’s the loss of identity,’ said Meghan. 

This was odd, considering that she has always seemed to quietly revel in her royally bequeathed duchessdom, but let’s not quibble because she is Speaking Her Truth and just trying to live her authentic life.

She added that she hoped people would watch the show and realise that, despite everything, ‘life was still worth living’. Good to know!

Oprah’s task was a simple one: to grill the Duke and Duchess on the fractious circumstances behind Megxit. 

I say grill, but the chat show veteran didn’t have to rake over many coals to get to the main beefs.

Indeed, Oprah had barely put a match to their gas-fuelled umbrage before it all went up in a bonfire of piping hot pique. 

Kate made Meghan cry! The Royal Family was racist! No one taught Meghan how to sing the National Anthem and she had to Google it all by herself, Oh My God the suffering, nothing happy and glorious about that, let me tell you.

The entire country of Not-So-Great Britain was put in the dock and found wanting and, even worse, there were money worries when 36-year-old Harry revealed that his family had ‘literally cut me off financially’.

He was left to scrape together a living from only the millions his mother had left him. ‘Without that we would not have been able to do this,’ he said.

Indeed, throughout the broadcast there was so much complaining about who was and who wasn’t going to pay for Harry and Meghan’s security that I felt like offering to pay for it myself, if only to shut them up.

For the first half of the interview, it was just the two women; Oprah in a pink jumper with matching spectacles, sensible flat boots and magnificent hairdo.

Meghan was in Elegant Duchess high heels and black wrap dress, telling her version of events like someone reliving the horrors of the night while relaxing on a sunbed, cocktail to hand.

She was poised, purposeful and delivered a strong performance full of dramatic pauses, deep breaths, Streep-like sideways glances and the occasional trembling lower lip. 

When Harry appeared in the second half, it was interesting that Meghan took on a more supplicant role, gazing at her husband in adoration as he talked emotionally of the ongoing estrangement from his father and his brother.

Yet despite this, she was still in charge; reassuring him, rubbing his arm, nodding in agreement even as the chasm peeled open ever wider between the two families.

Here, too, the nature of their relationship seemed clear; he is the Rodney to her Del Boy, she is the princess to his pea. 

‘No one in my family ever said anything over those three years. And that hurts,’ Harry said, of perceived slights to his wife. 

Yet amid the 50 shades of green in this far-flung Garden of Eden they still had each other and their fingers were entwined like bindweed.

The original interview was three hours and 20 minutes long, edited down to 85 minutes of pure peeve — or ‘setting the record straight’, as Oprah insisted. 

In America it was shown between adverts for loo paper, pistachio nuts, almond milk and car insurance.

There was a product that promised to get rid of sudden overnight wrinkles and I immediately thought of the Queen, who deserves so much more than this life–shortening opera courtesy of her blunderbuss grandson, this farrago of miff and huff.

The Sussexes did take pains to compliment HM, who gave Meghan some pearls, once shared a knee blanket and was kind. 

She was practically the only soul who emerged with a shred of dignity from the entire programme.

Even still, the show remained a royal spectacle — it was right up there with Prince Edward’s It’s A Knockout fiasco and Prince Andrew’s ceremonial flaying by the BBC’s Emily Maitlis. 

‘What?’ Oprah would cry, saucer-eyed, as the couple dropped another killer zinger and detailed their belief that everyone was out to get them, almost from the start.

As the minutes ticked by, it became obvious that the Sussexes’ revelations were designed to cause maximum damage to the Royal Family.

From the outset, the bomb-bay doors were open wide on this transatlantic revenge flight, the missiles falling like the raindrops Harry recently urged us all to become.

As Oprah nodded in empathy to their litany of woes, Sussex scold followed Sussex grievance followed terrible Sussex allegations about remarks made over their son Archie.

On the screen — but not off it, according to Oprah —the Sussexes stopped short of actually accusing anyone of anything, which was perhaps the worst crime of all. 

For it leaves newspapers, internet chatrooms, social media and uninformed speculation — everything in the world that they profess to hate — to do the dirty work for them. 

Look at them, pretending to hide under the petticoats of discretion in such a disingenuous fashion. 

What a pair of dangerous cowards they are.

In the history of chat shows, has anyone ever used the forum for a more brutal and sustained attack? 

Harry and Meghan clearly have suffered difficulty and pain — how we all wish things had been different on all sides — but was this carpet-bombing really necessary?

As one would expect from a friend, neighbour and wedding guest, Oprah did not probe or question too closely when the couple became vague on details, as they often did. 

They, them, the institution, The Firm? Who were they talking about?

Who said what? How and when? Clarification came there none, as Oprah moved swiftly on to the next unsubstantiated allegation.

Interestingly, there was very little discussion of Thomas Markle — a key figure in the Sussex drama — which makes one suspect that questions about him were discouraged. 

As, indeed, was anything that might have shown the couple in a bad light.

So instead we were treated to some cockle-warming footage of the family playing with Archie on a nearby beach and a rather hilarious interlude at the couple’s own home. 

There, Oprah, Harry and Meghan donned wellies and were filmed chatting in a chicken coop for hens that the couple have recently rescued from a factory farm.

She’s always wanted chickens,’ said Harry.

‘Well, you know, I just love rescuing,’ said Meghan, who perhaps didn’t mean her husband. Or maybe she did, who knows?

So in the end what did we learn? The couple showered lots of calculated praise on the Queen but said nothing about Prince Philip. 

We learnt that Prince Charles stopped taking his son’s calls, Harry is not on speakers with William and so far, so Crown.

Poor old Kate was thrown under the bus and kicked to the kerb by her sister-in-law — and Oprah just sat there and let it all happen.

‘I forgive her,’ said Meghan, after claiming that the Duchess of Cambridge made her cry but refusing to say why.

She sounded more like a Mean Girl than perhaps she intended but we are far from the shallows now, out into the uncharted waters from which there is little hope of a safe return to harbour.

At the root of everything, if you ask me, is a husband who failed to grasp the bigger picture and a wife who confused being royal with being famous — and still can’t tell the difference, even now.

The only winners from this are those who hate the monarchy: By attacking the Royal Family in such an imperious way, Harry and Meghan have come perilously close to obliterating the whole institution…and they must now lose their titles, writes RICHARD KAY

By Richard Kay for the Daily Mail

All in all, it has been the most wonderful 24 hours for the cause of republicanism for decades.

Not even the height of the Charles and Diana wars brought such a glow to the heart of anti-monarchists everywhere as Meghan and Harry’s sensational but utterly self-serving interview with Oprah Winfrey has done.

That such incendiary claims about cruelty, neglect, snobbery and racism existing at the heart of the Royal Family should come from two people who, barely a moment ago, were representing the Queen and the very institution they were so casually disparaging only adds to the enormity of this unfolding crisis.

No doubt the private telephone line at the Sussexes’ California mansion has been ringing non-stop with friends telling Meghan she had been brave, fearless and formidable with the bouquets and plaudits arriving by the truckload.

It was, let’s not forget, a consummate performance, proving that the Duchess is both articulate and ruthless.

In an 85-minute-long interview that was breathtaking in its audacity, she and Harry stripped away what few vestiges of mystery the monarchy had left, reducing it to the dimensions of a tawdry soap opera, while making the Palace and its advisers seem malevolent and destructive.

No sooner had the credits rolled on Oprah’s scoop, than unseen clips from the film in which further damaging assertions about Britain, the media and the Royal Family — including the claim that the Queen received ‘very bad’ advice from courtiers — were being broadcast.

Twenty-six years ago Harry’s mother Princess Diana similarly used a prime-time television interview to make a series of bombshell allegations about the breakdown of her marriage to the Prince of Wales, his and her adultery, and, infamously, spoke of her doubts of Charles’s suitability to be King.

That too caused uproar and was every bit a sensation, but the fallout from her appearance on BBC’s Panorama was confined largely to the domestic wellbeing of the royals and the issue of whether the Prince and Princess of Wales should divorce.

In other words, it was manageable.

Diana’s son and his wife have unleashed forces that are far more serious. The gravity of the situation was made clear when the Prime Minister faced questions about the crisis during what should have been a routine Downing Street briefing about the Covid-19 pandemic.

As a historian, Boris Johnson knows that the monarchy is a major pivot of the British constitutional system and if anything is done or said to weaken the institution — such as accusing one of its senior figures of racism — then it is the duty of the Prime Minister to advise the Queen of the Government’s view.

And it is why this interview has opened up much more than just an irreparable schism with the Royal Family. It presents a clear and present danger for the future of the monarchy.

What concerns those who have the goodwill of the monarchy at heart is how Meghan and Harry have wrought such damage on its image and reputation oversea with their wilful and groundlessly vindictive remarks.

A reputation, remember, cultivated over almost 70 years of tireless service by Harry’s grandmother, the Queen.

How tragic that at almost 95, she should see her life’s work jeopardised by such thoughtlessness. In Britain many with far fewer material advantages than this pampered, privileged pair will not have been bedazzled by their attempt to secure sympathy while at the same time attempting to destroy an institution that has, by and large, served us well for centuries.

For the picture they painted of life inside the House of Windsor is scarcely believable.

But in America, where the issue of social justice has been exploited by the foot soldiers of the Black Lives Matter movement, the couple’s claims that racism existed not just within the Royal Family but also in the fabric of British society were being seized on with alacrity.

In many ways, their interview was the video of Finding Freedom, the book in which they first set out their stall of resentment last year.

The barbs and insults aimed with precision at William, Kate, Charles and the Queen are one thing, but their implication that our island nation is a country where racist attitudes flourish is a travesty. All this has been grist to the mill for those republican sympathisers to jump in gleefully and attack the monarchy.

Some revelled in the speculation to suggest that this represented such a significant moment in our royal history that the Queen might be the last monarch.

For such figures there is little chance of them pausing to wonder about the veracity of the Duke and Duchess’s claims, many of which were vague and unsubstantiated, and some downright untrue.

Take the pre-wedding ‘wedding’. Just the three of us, said Meghan — her, Harry and the Archbishop of Canterbury — ‘in our backyard’.But this, according to church sources, was no more than the wedding rehearsal and a blessing.

Perhaps there is an innocent explanation for such an exaggeration. But what about the racism claim? Meghan raised it first. She described how an unnamed royal posited ‘concerns’ about how dark their baby Archie’s ‘skin might be when he’s born’.

When Harry joined the conversation, Oprah Winfrey tackled him about it too. He said it was ‘awkward’ and that it was a ‘conversation I am never going to share’.

Instantly, it allowed those on social media to speculate wildly about which family member might have uttered such a disgracefully insensitive remark.

In an apparent attempt to defuse the growing online anger, Oprah yesterday let it be known that Harry had denied that the words about his son’s skin tone had come from either his grandmother or his grandfather, Prince Philip. But that served only to increase the frenzy at the narrowing pool of suspects.

But this was no offhand comment but rather part of a narrative arc that was designed to show Harry and Meghan as victims of distorted and outdated prejudice. By conflating this example of casual racism together with the extraordinary claim that Archie might be denied a title because of the colour of his skin and then wrapping the whole thing with the suggestion that the royals would not fund his protection, they presented themselves as victims of an arcane and unattractive system.

For those with long memories, listening to Harry preach about racist attitudes will be particularly uncomfortable. Twelve years ago the then army officer found himself condemned for making a racist insult after being caught on camera referring to a fellow soldier of Pakistan heritage as ‘our little Paki friend’.

Even so, his contribution to this most devastating of royal interviews was profound. Where his wife was fluent, Harry seemed at times out of his depth. In her segment, Meghan said claims that she had made Kate cry in the run up to her wedding were ‘the reverse’ of the truth.

Her explanation for dragging all this up again now? ‘I’m not sharing that piece about Kate in any way to be disparaging to her,’ she demurred. ‘I think it’s really important for people to understand the truth.’

Quite how that version of events will go down with ‘not disparaged’ Kate remains to be seen.

Certainly it seemed to be at odds with Harry’s remarks that William and Kate and all the rest of the family had been ‘really welcoming’.

For a pair who have spent most of the last year declaiming with Garboesque regularity that they want to be alone and protect their privacy, their list of vengeful revelations suggest they are actually addicted to attention.

I wonder, if like Diana, they will come to regret this foolish moment?

For the Princess it was a realisation that crept up on her. Buoyed by opinion polls which largely divided on gender grounds – women thought her courageous, men felt she’d shot herself in the foot – she was gratified initially.

But while the criticism of Charles forced the Queen to act and instructed the pair to divorce, it was Prince William’s reaction which hurt her most.

Just 13, he was appalled by her confession of an affair with ex-Cavalry officer James Hewitt, whom he considered a family friend.

Although she never repudiated the interview she bitterly regretted those two elements.

For Harry penitence might come when he reflects on what he said about his father.

He revealed that he had been ‘let down’ by Prince Charles who ‘because he’s been through something similar… knows what pain feels like.’

Is he really equating the misery of the Prince’s marriage break up with his fury because he couldn’t get his own way? How petulant this all feels.

For a time, he said, his father had stopped taking his telephone calls. Since those calls were, I understand, often to demand ever larger sums of money to maintain his lavish royal style, who could blame him?

Then there is his unhelpful claim that as heir and heir in line to the throne, Charles and William are ‘trapped within the system’. This is hardly designed to endear him to a father and brother who have demonstrated that they understand the meaning of royal duty.

But perhaps the parallels with Diana are more important. That, like Harry’s mother, he and Meghan do not want to be ignored and do not crave anonymity.

The trouble is by setting about the Royal Family in such an imperious and high handed way, they have come perilously close to obliterating the very institution that gives them the status they enjoy.

A week ago Buckingham Palace showed that when claims of bullying by Meghan emerged, it was not prepared to brush it under the carpet. It noted the apparent failure of the Palace’s internal human resources systems to deal with the issue and promised to investigate.

How strange that Meghan should refer to that same internal HR department in describing how she tried and failed to cope with her mental anguish. It became so grave, she told Oprah, she thought of suicide.

She was, of course, pregnant at the time but even so going to the personnel department does seem a bizarre course of action to want to take. Harry, after all was not just figure head of a mental health charity at the time, it was also not long after he had revealed how he had sought counselling himself because of years of unprocessed anguish relating to his mother’s death.

Two red light issues, racism and mental health. Both guaranteed to attract huge empathy for the duchess. If that is truly all she wanted, then of course there will be sympathy and understanding for her.

But her lack of emotional intelligence will convince many that Harry and Meghan’s interview was no cri de coeur but a self-centred rush of attention-seeking.

The tragedy is that in doing it they have opened a wound to the heart of the monarchy . The blood is flowing and it is hard to see how it can be staunched.

To survive, and here the Queen (and the Government) will have the overwhelming support of the British people, Harry and Meghan will be need to jettisoned and left without the accoutrements of their royal lives — their HRH titles.

Do nothing and the reputation of our Queen and our monarchy will be fatally impaired. If this means losing support in countries like the U.S. it must be a chance worth taking.

ROBERT HARDMAN: Allegations about Archie’s title, his ‘dark skin’ and royal protection… but there are so many more questions than answers

By Robert Hardman for the Daily Mail 

Of all the so-called ‘bombshells’, this was the big one, the 50-megaton whopper dumped from on high at the 40-minute mark.

No wonder it prompted the usually unflappable Oprah Winfrey to emit a ‘W-haaat?’

Asked to explain the lack of a princely title for her baby son, the Duchess of Sussex replied: ‘I can give you an honest answer.’

Whereupon – kerpow! Cue detonation: ‘We have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security/He’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be.’

In this one sentence, the institution of monarchy was simultaneously traduced as spiteful (withholding royal status from the seventh in line to the throne), callous (denying him protection) and, worst of all, racist. If one is seeking the big constitutional question amid the psychodrama, this is it.

To which, I will simply echo the duchess and give an honest answer of my own: I don’t believe it.

The couple, assisted by Oprah Winfrey, went into all these charges at length – as viewers will have seen last night. But, ultimately, their claims fall down on two counts and are, at best, hazy on the third.

Time and again during this show, we heard – rightly – much being made of ‘the truth’ (though Palace staff were, very specifically, accused of telling ‘lies’). So it is only right we should submit this most incendiary of moments to closer scrutiny.

At the time of their son’s birth, it was made very clear – by the couple’s own staff, no less – that the Sussexes did not want a title for Archie.

There was much obfuscation on other matters, you may recall, not least when the Sussexes’ staff announced that the duchess was going into labour – eight hours after she had already given birth. However, on the title, things were crystal clear: No handle, thanks. 

Archie actually had a choice of titles. He was (and, in theory, still is) the Earl of Dumbarton, the courtesy title for the eldest son of the Duke of Sussex.

Having decided that Archie’s earldom was too grand, the couple could have styled him ‘Lord Archie’, according to established form for the son of a duke.

But, no, the couple wanted none of it. He would be plain Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor.

As Omid Scobie, the couple’s biographer and favourite journalist, tweeted approvingly: ‘All part of giving him as normal a life as possible.’ Except we are now told that this was all ‘untrue’. Meghan and Harry really did want him to be a prince, after all. It was the Royal Family and/or the courtiers (we never know for sure) who refused. ‘It was a decision that they felt was appropriate,’ said Meghan. ‘There’s no explanation,’ she added.

No explanation was needed, however. The rules were laid down by George V in letters patent on November 30, 1917.

These state that the children of the monarch, the children of the sons of the monarch and the eldest grandson of the Prince of Wales all qualify as a prince or princess with the style of HRH. In other words, when the Prince of Wales becomes king, Archie will become a prince anyway. And since those are the rules, no ‘decision’ had to be taken.

No doubt the Sussexes may feel irked that the Queen has amended George V’s rules in favour of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

That has nothing whatsoever to do with snubbing Archie or his parents, though. It actually happened in 2012, well before the Cambridges even had children. The 1917 rules were simply changed to prevent sex discrimination.

As things stood under the old rules, if the Cambridges’ eldest child had been a daughter she would not have been royal whereas a subsequent younger brother would have been HRH Prince ‘X’. (In the end, they had Prince George first and the move was redundant.)

The duchess went on to suggest that, even when Archie does get his ‘HRH’ status, there is some secret plan at work to remove it.

Instead of seeking out future hypothetical slights, the couple could always look to the Earl and Countess of Wessex. Both their children were born princely – with ‘HRH’ – but their parents have chosen not to use either.

So, did Archie’s lack of princely status deny him ‘security’ – whether on racial grounds or any other?

If it did, it has nothing to do with the Royal Family. That is a question for the Home Secretary, Priti Patel, who decides police matters. She may not take too kindly to being accused of racial discrimination against a babe in arms. And then we come to the nuclear nub of this issue. Meghan said all this viperous pettiness and those ‘conversations’ (plural) about her child’s complexion – which, she admitted, she did not witness – were swirling around during her pregnancy.

Yet, an hour later, after Harry was finally invited on to the sofa, he hadn’t been following the script. Because he drove what lawyers might call a coach and horses through his wife’s testimony.

Referring to ‘that conversation’ (singular), he said it took place ‘right at the beginning’, adding: ‘Like, there was some real obvious signs before we even got married that this was going to be really hard.’

I am not saying this conversation (or even conversations) did not happen. But we are offered no context. What we are being given are loose, conflicting allegations of a racially driven ‘decision’ to block a title that did not yet exist and a royal usurpation of police powers which hasn’t happened.

That does not strike me as sufficient grounds to trash the monarchy, let alone to summon the tumbrils.

But, ultimately, feelings towards the monarchy are more about emotion than facts. The Duke of Sussex has said he had no choice but to sign up to media deals because his ‘family literally cut me off financially’ last year.

Some will see this as a laudable quest for financial independence. Others will point out that his father was paying the couple’s bills the year before while they were busy registering trademark applications for ‘SussexRoyal’ events, books, stationery, socks and pyjamas.

The duchess said that she was a virtual prisoner of Palace control freaks who took control of her passport, keys and even her lunch plans. Yet, later, she said that the Palace took no interest at all. ‘There was no guidance,’ she said. ‘There’s none of that training that might exist for other members of the family. That was not something that was offered to me.’ Which one was it?

This is an exercise which has raised more questions than it has answered. Clearly, there is an element of fault and regret on both sides. Clearly, the Sussexes feel a lot happier in their new life and, as such, may feel vindicated in doing what they have done.

However, they have done more to entrench positions than to shift them, and at great personal cost all round.

So let’s have one more ‘honest answer’ to one more question: Was it really worth it?

DOMINIQUE SAMUELS: This clash of the Royals was about culture… NOT colour

By Dominique Samuels for the Daily Mail 

Who can forget the goodwill that gripped this country in the run-up to the wedding of Prince Harry and his bride-to-be?

Among BAME (black, Asian and minority ethnic) Britons like myself, these feelings were all the stronger.

Many of my younger friends, who perhaps had had little interest in the Royal Family, were overjoyed to see the charismatic, mixed-race Meghan – a thirty-something divorcee with an established career – bringing a new dynamic to the monarchy, one far more reflective of the wider world.

I saw her as a force for good: a catalyst for modernising the Royal Family and a potent symbol of 21st-century change.

What a shame that that early optimism now lies in tatters.

Today, less than three years after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex walked down the aisle, those hopes have been dashed amid explosive accusations of racism within and without the monarchy – racism apparently so entrenched that it became one of the driving factors behind the decision for the couple to abandon the House of Windsor and the UK.

The shocking claims made to Oprah Winfrey have found support among members of the black community on both sides of the Atlantic, with some well known black British figures saying they feel horrified by the Sussexes’ claims and endorsing the Duchess’s sensational allegations of racism towards her and Archie.

Yet despite being mixed-race myself, I cannot join in this chorus of outrage and finger-pointing. For a start, there are the internal inconsistencies.  

Meghan admits she was accepted with open arms by the Queen, who breakfasted with her, gave her pearl earrings and a matching necklace, and even shared a blanket with her to keep warm during a drive.

You cannot offer warm words for the Queen, yet in the same breath claim the institution she heads is racist. 

Meanwhile, though there were some questionable headlines, the media – as newspaper archives attest – was largely welcoming when Meghan arrived on the scene.

Sure, some eyebrows were raised about her more eccentric family members. But her mother, Doria Ragland, a model of grace and dignity, has been widely admired.

There is no doubt that Meghan received some racial abuse from the nastier corners of social media. I was horrified by it myself and felt nothing but sympathy for her.

Yet everything I have seen suggests that the problem behind the collapsing relations between her and the monarchy lay not with her skin colour but more who she is: an ambitious, proudly independent Californian with very different values from the conservative and often stuffy institution that she found herself in.

However much the deeply protective Harry had sought to prepare her, what a shock it must have been for this actress and yoga-loving blogger – steeped in the wellness culture of LA and loud about her unbendingly ‘woke’ views – to find herself in an environment governed not by the cult of the individual but by tradition, service and duty.

Whatever Meghan’s aspirations, she was always going to find herself just one cog in a much bigger and more important machine. 

That cannot have been easy for her – and it seems that it became harder to bear over time.

Finally, in her determination to have her voice heard – and as a woman with an acute political compass – Meghan surely knew that throwing race and racism into the equation this week would spark particularly powerful emotions and inflict maximum damage.

Harry, too, could not have been unaware how explosive a claim of racism against the Royal Family would be, and how badly it would wound the institution and family he had rejected.

All BAME people in multi-cultural Britain have experienced both casual and overt racism.

But the vast majority of this country welcomed Meghan with open arms. 

The clash between this Hollywood princess and real royalty was one not of colour – but of culture. Now the reverberations from that clash are echoing around the world.

LINDSAY NICHOLSON: In allowing the Harry and Meghan situation to come to this, the Royals have let an impressive woman slip through their fingers

By Lindsay Nicholson for the Daily Mail

Usually it’s not difficult to spot a Royal bride on a visit to an urban community centre.

She might not be wearing a tiara, but there could well be a hat and clutch, even gloves, and flunkies whose job it is to make sure only a favoured few get close to the woman who would soon be referred to as Her Royal Highness.

But this wasn’t happening when I arrived at the Al-Manaar mosque in West London one morning in spring 2018. To be sure, there were a couple of dark-suited men with earpieces, suggesting that one of the most talked-about women in the Western world had got there ahead of me.

But there was no formality, no protocol, certainly no hierarchy.

In a room of women of all ages and sizes, representing 15 different cultural heritages, speaking a dozen languages, all working to feed the hundreds made homeless after the Grenfell fire, it took me a while to find the Royal bride.

Until, that is, I spotted a woman wearing jeans, her sleeves rolled up, elbow-deep in scrubbing pans at the sink. There was no standing on ceremony and definitely nothing to indicate that in a few days’ time this particular washer-upper would discard her apron and walk down the aisle of St George’s Chapel, Windsor, to marry Prince Harry. There was laughter, jokes and kissing instead of handshakes.

Three years on, as I watch the international furore grow around the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, I can only wonder why no-one seems to see the Meghan that I, and the women of the community kitchen, got to know that day.

I wonder where that valuable asset to the Royal family, who seemed to fit in so effortlessly, whose future seemed so bright and assured, has gone. I can’t believe it has come to this . . .

Meghan was still living in Canada in 2017 when the devastating fire ripped through the London Tower block killing 72, making it the worst peacetime disaster in the capital since the World War II.

But as soon as she moved to London to be with Prince Harry, realising Grenfell was on her doorstep at Kensington Palace, she began making secret visits, in particular helping the women of the nearby mosque who had begun cooking meals to feed the displaced.

The kitchen was only open on Tuesdays and Thursdays and when she asked why, she discovered that the problem was funding.

It was her idea to raise the money to expand the kitchen by collecting the family recipes of the women into a cookbook, on which I, as former editor of Good Housekeeping, was happy to help out.

The food on offer was extraordinary, world-class cuisine from around the world — all coming out of this ramshackle kitchen.

Meghan thought so too and we collaborated on what became Together: Our Community Cookbook published in September of that year.

It meant Meghan was popping along to the mosque, in an unmarked car, right up until a couple of days before the wedding and was back again and helping with the book edits not long after.

Even with her new title, a Royal Highness now, there was no difference to the person we had come to know. She even brought with her food she had made in the kitchens at the Palace to share at lunch.

Chatting once everyone had been fed, I remember asking Meghan if she and Harry had managed to fit in a honeymoon. She just gave me that cheeky smile that she uses when she doesn’t want to answer, and changed the subject.

It was deftly done, more in common with how an accomplished celebrity handles things. No offence was taken. But if she set boundaries with me — a journalist, after all — there was no hint of frostiness with the women in the kitchen, allowing herself to be the butt of their jokes, having her cooking skills criticised and enjoying their laughter.

Above all, though, I think they recognised her as a fellow grafter, someone who did the work behind the scenes, not just when there were cameras around.

If she was privately suffering at this stage, as she has suggested in interview, there was no sign of it. Of course, one never knows what goes on behind a smile, but the person I saw that day was impressive.

The star quality of Diana, but at the same time relatable and accomplished. It’s the Royal family’s loss that she has slipped through its fingers, never to return.

But there are many people in this country who don’t really feel the Royal Family has much to say for itself. Perhaps if things had been handled a little better, Meghan could have been the bridge between the disaffected and the traditionalists.

Who knows? But what is certain is that there is a lot to be admired about a Duchess in jeans doing the washing up. I just wish she’d stayed longer, to do more.

Meghan the mermaid and a fairy tale with a fishy ending: As the Duchess claims she’s like a cursed Disney character, SARAH VINE asks does her story really hold water?

By Sarah Vine for the Daily Mail

Fair to say, I think, that the Meghan and Harry interview with Oprah Winfrey raises so many more questions than it answers.

Which member of the Royal Family was it who allegedly expressed ‘concerns’ about Archie’s skin colour? Which sister-in-law actually made the other one cry? And did Prince Charles really stop returning his son’s calls?

The truth about all these, and many other allegations made by the couple, may never be known.

However, there is one thing that emerges quite clearly: the Duke and Duchess are plainly caught up in their very own Disney fairy tale fantasy.

It’s not just the general soapiness of their demeanour towards each other, present in every look and every gesture throughout the two-hour long confessional. It’s the fact that she even says it, in so many words.

Towards the end of their audience with Oprah, Meghan recalls sitting with Harry in their cottage in the grounds of Kensington Palace when Disney animated film The Little Mermaid came on the TV.

‘And I went, ‘Oh, my God, she falls in love with the prince’,’ she says. ‘And because of that, she has to lose her voice. But by the end, she gets back her voice’.’

Oh my God indeed, what wonderful serendipity. ‘Silence — or silenced.’ Geddit? Almost as though someone had scripted it. Indeed, Peter Morgan (writer of The Crown) could not have put it better himself.

For those readers unfamiliar with the canon, The Little Mermaid tells the story of beautiful Princess Ariel, daughter of Triton, who falls in love with a human prince, somewhat implausibly called Eric, after she saves him from a shipwreck.

In order to win his heart, she makes a deal with the evil sea-witch Ursula: in return for the beautiful mermaid’s voice, Ursula will give her legs so she can do dancing and go to balls and do other princess stuff.

Much drama ensues, a lot of it involving crustaceans; but in the end true love triumphs, Ariel gets her voice back — and the pair live happily ever after.

I must admit it’s a long time since I saw the 1989 film, so perhaps I missed the part where she and Eric trash his entire family’s reputation before selling off his crown jewels to Netflix, but you get the drift.

And in many ways it’s a useful comparison because it speaks volumes about how Harry and Meghan see themselves, and probably explains far more about the couple’s behaviour than any of the rather vague accusations of maltreatment by ‘The Firm’.

So much of their anger and resentment seems to be directed towards those people — from Prince William, who famously questioned the speed of their romance, to the courtiers and Palace advisers who fell foul of them — who dared introduce the tiniest element of reality into their perfect fantasy.

A fantasy scripted as follows. Harry, the handsome, tortured Prince searching for that one true love; Meghan the wide-eyed innocent, noble not by birth but in spirit.

He, her protector, determined to shield her from the casual snobbery of his stuffy family — even at the cost of his own crown; she his emotional saviour, his one true path, cruelly traduced by the savage forces of convention but determined, through her diamond tears, to free him from the straitjacket of the past.

Everything they do — from the studious black and white shots of them cradling each other in an assortment of bucolic settings, to the homilies they post on social media — is intended to perpetrate this notion of theirs as The Greatest Love Story Of All Time, a triumph of good over evil, a stirring, heartwarming tale of love against the odds.

The image they seek to project is so aggressively perfect it’s actually a little bit scary.

And anyone who doesn’t buy into their ‘story’, or who dares question that precise narrative is, basically, a cartoon villain.

The Duchess of Cambridge is cast as one of the Ugly Sisters for making poor Cinders cry over the bridesmaids’ dresses.

Mean old father-in-law Charles cuts off his son and leaves them barely able to scrape together the millions to buy their Santa Barbara mansion.

The British newspapers are beastly because they don’t think it’s a terribly clever idea to pontificate about climate change and then fly half way around the world for a baby shower. And so on.

So why are Harry and Meghan so defensively in love with their own love story?

Why are they seemingly so determined to cast themselves as heroes of their own Disney romance? And why do they seem to think their love for each other gives them a right to ride roughshod over everyone else in their lives?

In Harry’s case, it seems abundantly clear. His mother was a romantic whose dreams of being the perfect princess were cruelly dashed by the bitter realities of her marriage to Prince Charles.

He sees his father in large part as the architect of her agonies, and is determined not to let the same things happen to the woman he clearly adores.

Meghan is perhaps a little different. Like most little girls, she harboured dreams of princessdom. But hers went a little further than most.

The mother of one of Meghan’s closest childhood friends from school, Sonia Ardakani, once revealed that her daughter and Meghan were captivated by the life of Harry’s late mother, Diana, Princess of Wales, and used to watch a video of her wedding to Prince Charles over and over.

On a trip to London in 1996, the then 15-year-old Meghan was photographed smiling excitedly with a friend in front of Buckingham Palace — just as hundreds of tourists do every day because this is where the Queen lives.

And yet this contrasts with her assertion, in this interview, that she wasn’t much interested in the whole royal circus when she first met Harry.

‘I went into it naively,’ she says, ‘because I didn’t grow up knowing much about the Royal Family. It wasn’t something that was part of conversation at home. It wasn’t something that we followed.’

One final thought. In a now long-deleted post from her blog, The Tig, Meghan wrote: ‘Little girls dream of being princesses — and grown women seem to retain this childhood fantasy . . . just look at the pomp and circumstance surrounding the royal wedding and endless conversation about [sic] Princess Kate.’

Just look indeed.